#108: Michael Shaw - "The Conversation: Art Podcast"


Michael Shaw is an artist and podcast host & producer based in Los Angeles. While working as an artist and writing about art, in late 2011 he started The Conversation Art Podcast, a show that “goes behind the scenes and between the lines of the contemporary art worlds.” Inspired by his own experiences holding down a variety of jobs and projects over the years to support himself, and wanting to reach a wider audience than the niche of the art world, he created his 2nd podcast, How I Get By, to address concepts including day jobs, living on a wide spectrum of income levels and general work/life satisfaction. You can see his art at michaelshawstudio.com

Topics Discussed In This Episode:

  • Why he started his podcast, “The Conversation: Art Podcast”

  • Our experiences podcasting and our interactions with listeners

  • Social experimentation

  • Collaboration

  • Seneca

  • Obscure films

  • The Italian Film, “The Best of Youth”

  • The films, “Lady Bird”, “Manchester by the Sea”, and “Sorry To Bother You”

  • Pop music and popular podcasts

#106: Isaac Bauman X Saman Kesh X Yoshino - "Exploration, The Cornerstone of Artistry"

Isaac Bauman is a cinematographer and photographer based in Los Angeles.

Topics Discussed In This Episode:

  • Bauman talks about the latest feature film he worked on entitled “Bloodline”

  • Counteracting comfortability in one’s art form

  • Adapting under pressure and embracing resistance

  • A lighting technique called “blue moonlight”

  • Understanding human psychology for team communication on film sets

  • Surviving as an artist

  • Compromising one’s artistic vision to service a client’s commercial needs

  • What it takes to make a good collaborative partnership

  • Kesh and Bauman’s film project, “Controller”

  • Building respect for the people you work with

  • How Bauman got into photography

  • Exploration being the cornerstone of the artistic journey

  • The power of listening

  • Dealing with our own demons

  • Dealing with creative differences


#105: Tunde Adebimpe (TV On The Radio) - "The Full Catastrophe"


Tunde Adebimpe is a musician, actor, director, and visual artist best know for being the frontman of the band TV On The Radio.

Topics Discussed In This Episode:

  • The power of telling your personal story

  • His solo exhibition at NOH/WAVE entitled, “The Full Catastrophe”, opening Oct 31st

  • The importance of forgiving others

  • Poisoning yourself with negative thoughts

  • Tapping into the child-like self

  • Clarity in having children

  • Tunde growing up in Nigeria between the ages of 5 – 10

  • Using journaling as a tool in your daily practice

  • Revisiting ideas of the past

  • The consciousness stream

  • Parenting

  • How Tunde navigates between creating with different artistic mediums

  • Creative partnerships

  • Settings expectations or not setting them at all

  • The reason why he got into acting

  • Relinquishing control of a project once you put it out into the world

  • “The Square” directed by Ruben Östlund

  • Bruce Lee’s “Enter The Dragon”

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#104: Jordan Reyes - "The Devil's In The Detail"


As an artist in the group BASECAMP, Jordan Reyes has released records on the label end via OWSLA/Atlantic & Independently Popular, while playing Bonnaroo, Osheaga and touring with Chvrches, Phantogram, and more. As producer, Jordan has had multiple cuts with blackbear, Mike Shinoda, KYLE, Donna Missal, Terror Jr, Wes Period, Doja Cat and many more.  Currently, Jordan is developing a new artist project by name of bodyimage.

Topics Discussed In This Episode:

  • Psychedelics

  • Synesthesia

  • The awareness of subtle nuances and details in constructing music

  • Reyes explains his time creating music with his group, Basecamp

  • Having strength within one’s sensitivities

  • The industrial and technological revolutions

  • How physical activity can fuel a more efficient creative practice

  • Religion vs. spirituality

  • Shifts and evolutions in life

  • Creating artwork within certain boundaries

#103: Rina Yang X Saman Kesh - "The Art of Finding Yourself"


Rina Yang is a director of photography based in London. She grew up in a small city in Japan, where she studied still life and portrait painting.

Yang is a highly accomplished cinematographer who has worked with clients such as: Netflix, Nike, Vice, and Saatchi & Saatchi, and musicians including: Kendrick Lamar, FKA Twigs, Vince Staples, Charli XCX, and many more.

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